| RavenBlog |
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| Comments on Friday 23 May 2008: |
| Is there a running joke in advertising now, kind of like the Wilhelm scream in movies, to see how much cancelled superlative one can work in? I just heard an ad say that some sort of dishwasher tablet "may make dishes up to 100% drier". May make dishes up to 100% drier? Also, even if they did make dishes 100% drier, that just means dry. You know what else makes dishes 100% drier? Leaving them alone for an hour! [23:39] |
| Nameless |
| Just dry isn't possible from "100% drier", surely. If the dishes are currently 50% dry then 100% drier is ~33.3% wet. oo% drier would be just dry, no? |
| Digi |
| ^Me. |
| RavenBlack |
| Hm, I don't know what crazy maths you're doing, but I could see an argument for if they are currently 10% dry then 100% drier would be 20% dry. I suppose it depends what sort of scale dryness is measured on, if you're looking at it that way. My view of it was that 100% drier means 100% of the residual wetness is removed, since dryness is a measure of absence. |
| Digi |
| Yup, crazy poker maths - recently changed my standard flop continuation bet size from 3/4 of the pot to 2/3 of the pot, so I'm making quarters into thirds all over the shop. 25% wet/75% dry. It depends whether you think of dryness as an absence of wetness, or a quantity in it's own right. If Raven is ten units tall, then shorter by a factor of X, and then he is shorter again by a factor of up to 100% of X then his height is >0 units tall. In fact even if he was shorter by a factor of up to oo% of X, I think you could make an argument for him still being >0 units, in that he would be 0.(infinity zeros and then a 1) units tall, or some weird number like that. 'Half as dry' is what I meant, but I read Kevan's comment on Livejournal after posting here, so I'd already taken your answer to that as your answer to this. |
| RavenBlack |
| Mm, I can't see how 100% drier would mean half as wet though. 50% drier then 50% drier again, yeah, I could see being not fully dry, but 100% drier could only be not fully dry if there is some sort of dryness scale that is a scalar. |
| Katie |
| I don't know either of you but based on this conversation I think I love you both. |
| RavenBlack |
| Oh, I just read it over again and now I get it I think; as if it were 100% drier than some competing product, where they're both starting from some arbitrary point. So if other product leaves things 90% wet then 100% drier than that would be 80% wet. Gotcha. That just makes the assertion even *less* powerful, of course, since "up to 100% drier than an unknown small amount dry" is obviously worse than "up to 100% dry". Also, I just visited your linked site, Katie, and according to it you do love me. It says so at the end of the bio-shock. |
| Katie |
| Yeah! I wouldn't lie about something like that. |