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Comments on Sunday 6 April 2003:
I haven't posted anything political for a while, but hooray for John Kerry. Send him supportive mail. [17:44]

Abby
It's foolish to say something like that. As a senator, Mr. Kerry should understand that in times of war, political figures need to support the government. Sure, the democrats can speak out against whatever they wish. But the fact remains that over 70% of americans support the war, and Bush's approval rating has never been higher. I'm not "pro-war," that's the thing. I'm pro-liberation. After seeing what that evil man did to the Kurds and to his own people, no one in their right mind can give him the kind of support democrats of power are giving him. It's a shame.

RavenBlack
Supporting Saddam and objecting to Bush's pathetic excuse for diplomacy are not the same thing. Iraqi civillians are being swiftly liberated from their lives by the war - lucky them. Hooray for Bush.

"In times of war, political figures need to support the government"? Pavlov would probably suggest that propagating this idea is how you should train governments to strive for a war whenever possible.

Tom
I'm not sure how accurately the speech was reported, but Kerry seems to be taking a pro-destruction of dangerous leaders stance - says Iraq needs a regime change, but America needs one too. Seeking a regime change in Iraq is an odd way of supporting Saddam. Kerry's primarily attacking Bush, not the war. Do you think Bush will ever be able to repair the diplomatic damage he's done? Do you think he even understands what he has done? The man lacks the intelligence to negotiate friendly diplomatic relations with a pretzel. Saying that your own leader is an idiot is not the same as saying the other guy's leader is a hero.

Zloduska
Over 70 percent of Americans support the war?! Not bloody likely. And by 'pro-liberation' you must be 'pro-genocide'. Everything you think, is exactly what the Republican war-mongering regime in power here WANTS you to think, so they can enact their evil plans, harming not only the lives of civilians in the Middle East, but Americans and all their future generations as well.

RavenBlack
That's the 70% that responded 'no' to a poll of "do you wish specific harm upon American troops overseas?"

Eps
Hell, I hate that!

Over here the poles were "Do you support a war without UN backing?"
Yes - 30%
NO - 70%
Right up til it started. Then they changed the question to "Do you support the Australian troops in Iraq?"
Yes – 50 to 60%
No – 40 to 50%
And tried to pass it off as the same question!
(If you don't see the difference I can explain further...)

Eps - Bleh.

Tom
What's mildly disturbing is that last time I was brave enough to look at such Australian statistics, John Howard was still the preferred leader of the nation at about 70%, regardless of how the in favour of war stats moved. Probably because Crean is a wishy-washy sort of fellow. It's quite a terrifying prospect, Howard as PM after the next election.

Hoorah for the steady Australian incursion into RavenBlog. We should set up a colony and transport politicians. Raven doesn't yet understand the term 'Australian backpackers', amd so is vulnerable.

C. Copperpot
Eastern Imperialist Dogs!

Tom
Hoorah!

bv728
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but morally treasonable to the American public."
- Theodore Roosevelt

Rambly Tom
Hoorah! Is it still a crime to state "I'm going to kill the President of the USA"? We can say such things about our PM here. People have actually declared war on the Australian PM recently without being arrested. Oh fuck, just realised. Australia stands up for Teddy far more than the USA does. So, when do we get to be leader of the free world? Do we get bumper stickers? Novelty hats? The important question - can we flood your country with hamburgers that include beetroot? I want to eat a Big Mac in New York with beetroot as a standard topping. If you have never had beetroot in a hamburger, you have never had a hamburger. If you have never had a hamburger, you do not know what food can taste like. Beetroot is the best vegetable to eat with any fried meat. It took Australia to discover this. And to invent the fried egg and bacon pizza.

RavenBlack
Is the beetroot properly pickled, or is it bland and just a bit briney?

Digi
Do you America-dwellers get to watch an hour of British, or for that matter not American news, in the small hours of the morning? No? Shut up then. I get to watch some guy in an ill-fitting suit reading things to Americans for an hour every morning. Don't remember which channel, CNN, ABC, MSNBC, CTF, BOFH, one of them.

"The latest government research indicates we’re not living in a fascist, subversive, deceptive regime."

Anyway, this isn't just a nice little story, it's what we bored blog commentors call a 'back-story'. Stop me if I'm getting too techie on you. The point is that when the first set of explody soldiers got explody'd by American explody things, it was on the U.K news pretty much as soon as it broke (so they implied), then 4 days latter DVDA news' anchor bloke announced "Some English Marines fell out their English helicopter. Those kooky Europeans, so eccentric."

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