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Comments on Wednesday 11 December 2002:
Warning! Horrendous geekery! ... Multiple-socket systems (eg. any sort of server) suck, on every operating system except BSD. The only universally compatible method is using "select" which is horrible, whether blocking or polling. Linux also allows "poll", which is incompatible with many other systems, and sucks nearly as badly as a polling select anyway. Then there's the aio functions, which are akin to Windows Overlapped IO, in that they require that preallocated buffers be sacrificed to them, and then they report back in a fucking awkward manner. Windows also has its WSAAsyncSelect method, with reporting to either a window or an event; the former is lovely, it queues up messages in the order of occurence nicely, but it can't be used in a proper server because services aren't supposed to use any windows. The latter method, reporting to events, sucks. What's BSD's method that doesn't suck? kqueue and kevent - the same as Windows' AsyncSelect using a window, except without requiring the existence of a window. Is that so hard? Is it? But if I want that sort of ridiculously simple and sensible behaviour for many operating systems, I have to write a bloody big library to emulate the effect. And emulate it shittily, since it will have all the non-scalability of whatever method I use behind the scenes. [21:35]

Tabbie
When are you going to just break down (not mentally I hope) and write RavenOS? Although, the females might not be too happy about that because then they'd never be able to get you away from the computer. Now at least you can be lured away with "It's pissing you off, come and do something else for a while...."

Tabbie
Imagine if you had a system that did everything you wanted it to.... : )

Rialian
===And you might even be able to avoid joining the GNU world order..or at least put it in your own image....

David
Don't know if this will be helpful but I think our linux programmers at Javien used libsigc++ to deal with same or similar problems. http://libsigc.sourceforge.net/
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