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Comments on Friday 24 May 2002:
After some pondering, I've decided it would be nicer to not have any speaking parts in Solipsism, but instead to have mumbling parts. In the style of Charlie Brown adults, or Pingu. There were only six lines of dialogue anyway, and the dialogue content is irrelevant. Better to make that clear in an artistic and slightly unnerving way, I think, than to write irrelevance in. [22:31]

Tyrethali
Kudos. I almost always enjoy short films that are without dialogue. Non-verbal communication of points is the best.

Kevan
You could do all the dialogue as meaningful glances and shrugs, couldn't you, rather than gibberish?

RavenBlack
Yes, but then it wouldn't make sense, since it's occurring in a real-world context with, for example, a coworker leaning over a partition to talk to the character. Nobody ever leans over a partition to meaningfully glance at you. The message is not that nobody ever talks, it's that what they say is irrelevant.

Kevan
They might be reduced to meaningful glancing if you were on the phone. (On the phone making generic 'mm' noises and mostly listening, I suppose, in this case.)

RavenBlack
So virtually mumbling anyway, with the addition of a phone call which ruins the scene since it's intended that less than a second earlier I was interacting with someone else in person. Or, I could just stick with the mumbling, since there's nothing wrong with it. The other conversation scene would make even less sense to be performed with gestures, also.

Tyrethali
While I'm not saying that's how you should do it, as I think mumbling could be done quite nicely, the other conversation scene strikes me as being relatively easily done with gestures and non-verbal. (curious glance, raised eyebrow) (dismissive hand waving, secretively hunching over device) (slight frown, shrug, walks away)

Kevan
I must be imagining "Charlie Brown or Pingu mumbling" wrong, or you must be exaggerating your version of it - it seems distractingly silly in an otherwise serious and possibly-real piece of drama. It's bad enough in The Sims.

No further comment on validity of phonespeak because I can't remember the scene clearly enough.

RavenBlack
Mm, I suppose that is an imprecise description. I didn't mean actually sounding like those things, but rather "not being words in the same way as those are not words". The mumbling would be more a sort of guttural cough-mumble from the males, and, well, maybe Charlie Brown adult-sounds from the female. Or just a less guttural cough-mumble.

Kevan
Are you having a soundtrack, out of interest? It'd make a pretty magnificent music video, really, if the song had a longish fading-out outro.

RavenBlack
Mm, I have asked Eperdu to do music. He's currently working on the frenetic section before the end, because that was the easiest to describe what I wanted before the visuals are in place.
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