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Comments on Sunday 10 October 2004:
Funny thing - the movie Collateral Damage, though it appears to demonise terrorism, actually glorifies it. Sure, Schwarzenegger's character is enraged by the actions of terrorists/freedom fighters, but how does he react?

Well, some people from another country came to his country, killed his wife and kid and a bunch of other people, and called it collateral damage. His response is to sneak into their country illegally, and kill a bunch of people in unilateral retaliation. The hero of the movie is, essentially, doing the very same thing the villain is. But he's a hero and they're a terrorist, because we see it from his point of view. Or maybe because he's American - try doing the exact same plot with the man from the small country as the hero and an American soldier as the villain who killed his wife and kid, and see how people feel about it.

To be fair, it does give a nod to the idea, with a "how are you different from me?" conversation with the baddie 'terrorist', but that's shrugged off with an "I'm only going to kill you!" answer, despite the fact that our hero has caused lots of uncontrolled explosions and fires by then which might well have killed other people, and he kills several other people later, not to mention that he has only one person who killed his wife and kid so he can afford to kill only one, where the other guy has probably had friends and family killed by several different groups of people, who are promising to keep doing it, and who he has no way of identifying individually. And that doesn't change the fact that the same plot with the countries reversed would horrify most people and would almost certainly be impossible to get distributed in America. [07:07]

Solistus
Pfft, don't be silly. It's not exactly the same- don't you know that American lives are infinitely more valuable than foreigners' lives? Come now, this is pretty basic stuff! Why else would the American media report every American death in Iraq solemnly but not even attempt to get a ballpark estimate as to the number of Iraqi non-combatants (let alone insurgents!) that have been killed? Hell, we have Iraqi forces fighting with us now, and we rarely mention their casualties.

Harumi
Exactly. That's so totally right. I agree 413% (if that is a really percent *shifty eyes*) Anyway, isn't funny how Americans think that Iraqies are evil but yet scoff at them when they call us evil when we're killing thousands of innocent and/or brainwashed lives? I mean really... I do know someone in the Air Force, and no offense to her, but we're basically fighting for a cause that can't even be lost cause it was never there!

Aaron
On an unrelated note, why aren't snowstorm or solipsism finished yet? You are an evil, lazy programmer, Raven!

RavenBlack
That would be because I'm working on Robobeasts.

victoria
u make soo much sense.i dont really hve a relavant comment,but i wnted to say tht ur rite n i hear u,man.

SpasmodicMonk
I am, quite frankly, disgusted at your lack of respect towards the destructive capabilities of the coolest Cybernetic Governor on the face of the planet!

Anet
Get back to work on Solipsism... I need to find out if any of you are real...
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