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Comments on Tuesday 30 December 2003:
And then we're back to movies. Boondock Saints is quite good. Ideal within its genre, but it's not a genre I'm a particular fan of. I more enjoy its aspects from outside its genre; the superimposing of what the police think happened onto what actually happened, for example.

Terminator 3 is horrible, but at least it doesn't have Sarah Connor screeching all through it. It's well made and such, not too over-CGI'd, but it's horribly horribly written. "Oh yes, he's a robot from the future. Tell her!" "I am a robot from the future." "You're a crazy lunatic." "Hey, robot from the future, tell her who I am, and whatever you do don't show her your already-exposed metal insides, or pull off your mask-bit or anything, because then she'd believe us and that would be horrible." "You are John Connor, leader of the resistance." "See, the robot says that." "But he's just a crazy man." "Hey, robot from the future, nice sunglasses!" "Thank you. I am not really a robot from the future, young lady, we are lying to you." "Good one, Mr Robot! That'll confuse her more!"

Miracles, touted as one of Jackie Chan's favourite of his own movies, is a bit slow and boring. One can see how it would be his favourite; it seems like it was probably more fun to make than many of his others, and has a bit of a plot, and things, but it was too long and drab. That said, we saw a 122 minute version; America's was cut to 105, the UK's was cut to 101, and Germany's was cut to a slim 86 minutes. That last version is probably quite good.

And, saving the best 'til last, Battle Royale. Somewhat similar to Series 7: The Contenders, which we also enjoyed a lot, this is something like a cross between Lord of the Flies, any of the many movies where a person is hunted, and anything good. Perhaps also a little similarity to Cube, with the rampant suspicion and lack of information. It's a movie that would be best seen without having been told the plot, if you can manage it - and also a movie that would be best seen. See it. With your eyes. Even if you already have. Even if your eyes don't work. Get new eyes, and see Battle Royale with them. And then you can gouge them out again if you want. [20:41]

Naazima
I'm being forced to go see T3 (as they've termed it). It was either that or go to the last Matrix AND the last LOTR movies. **shudders** T3 will be bad enough thank-you. I'll have to try not to laugh through-out it. Just sitting there thinking of this post and trying to find the exact moments when John and the Robot should say those things will be very entertaining... Now I shall have to go hunt down Battle Royale and use my brother's eyes to watch it. (Now where did I put my eye-gouger-outer- majig???)

AttackOfTheSpam
Hey, I liked the last LOTR. The only really horrible thing was that there was this strange, disturbing scene at the end - Frodo woke up from his ring-destroying-induced coma, and Gandalf was there, and he said "Gandalf?!" in a very, very overacted voice. It sounded like he was either four or on some serious LSD. Then EVERY OTHER CHARACTER IN THE ENTIRE TRILOGY came in, one by one, and all started jumping on the bed in the manner of bad gay porn. And I do mean EVERY character. It must've been the longest, worst scene in the movie, if not every movie. 'Twas painful.

As for being forced to watch T3 - squicky. Very squicky indeed. Not so squicky that I'd put my eyes out, though - I'd perforate my eardrums so I didn't have to listen to it, which would have the added side effect of hospitalization for at least a week. I like my eyes rather too much to go jabbing at them.

Digi
Naazima: You seem to have decided to hate T3 no matter what. S'a little silly isn't it? What if Raven's wrong?

But still - T3's a nap-sack full of testicle. No doubt.

Naazima
Of course I've decided to hate T3 no matter what. I saw the first two and hated them... so why would i enjoy the last? It stands to reason if you don't like the story plot in the first two, and the third should have basically the same theme, that I wouldn't enjoy the third one. Of course there was the begining of the first that was okay.... can't help but like a scene in a playground of death.

Digi
You're right. Sequels always follow the trends of their predecessors.

*Always*.

So why bother going to see it at all? It's very diffrent from the first two. I liked them both, and hated this one. You hated them both, and so on...

Naazima
Digi... you seem in a bad mood. I never said things ALWAYS follow their predecessors. In regaurds to T3, from the previews, it seems to still be about robots (who look like humans) from the future, who come back to destroy or protect as they were programmed. Which is what I didn't like about the first two. So unless the robot are really aliens come to wreak havoc on the United States and suck out the presidents brains... it just isn't my deal.

Digi
Not a perticularly bad mood. In fact my comments were made out of good feelings. It looked to me that you, like so many others, were forming opinions based on social stylings, rather than logic and preference. Thought it might be nice for you if that wasn't the case, and by drawing your attention to it was endeavoring to help you change it.

Peace and that.

Oh wait, my standard pedantry: "I never said you said 'always' and neah neah neah neah." etc.

This has turned into an off-topic private conversation on a topic'd public forum. I end my part here.

Naazima
I refuse to end my part... I shall go on forever even if I must have a conversation with myself in this post. And it wasn't really private... else we'd have taken it to emails... or somesuch... if no one can tell yet... i love the elipses... and no that's not eclipses... so ends this pointless posting from me...

Naazima
By the way Digi... did you decide that my chosing to not want to go to T3 wasn't an opinion based on social stylings??

Digi
No.

Naazima
So you think that my decision was based on social stylings?! If it is... i hope to the gods/goddesses that it isn't.... but if it is i'll have to find a way to solve that... i try to do nothing according to society (thus doing everything according to society... must be some sort of Catch 22 type deal) It's like those who call themselves goth... they think they're unique because they're following the trend.... beyond me to comprehend... I've been rambling again haven't I? I'll try to stop.

Mmmm back to my point.... my reason for not wanting to go to T3 is that it's just not my type of movie... I prefer the chick-flics (occasionally), the comedy-flics (depending on actors in it), Jackie-Chan type (lots of this guy beating up that guy while going about his business), and sadly the stuff based on comic books (except the Hulk... that was pointless) Now please inform me what about my decision was a social styling please. Thank-you. Your Welcome.... and that is all the manners I can handle for the day people.... Gods i need to start my own journal......

Digi
Fneah, I still maintain this is a private conversation, and if non-everybody related things have to be said in reply my email address is digidrag@gmx.net.

By 'social stylings' I didn't mean the big society. I meant the lesser one where you based (albiet only in part, it now transpires) your decision on Raven's opinion. Besides, it wasn't your decision to not see it I was commenting about, it was an opinion, that you formed with the intention of never changing. Moreover, an opinion that you formed before seeing the best piece of evidence - the film itself. It's one thing saying "I'm almost certainly not going to like this film.", but refusing to like it?

I think Raven gets an email everytime we post one of these, so lets try not to keep on like this yeah?

Nameless
You two are SO odd.

Naazima, elipses rule. Digi, the word 'fneah' rules. Are you both flattered now?

Consider yourselves appeased and SHUT UP.

And no, I haven't had my caffeine today. Why do you ask?

wyndenai
attack:

First rule of LOTR dogpile club: do not look at LOTR dogpile club. Second rule of LOTR dogpile club: DO NOT LOOK AT LOTR DOGPILE CLUB. gah. at least only the hobbits joined in, though it is a rather sad moment when one figures Ian McKellen is consistently the least gay member of the fellowship...

AttackOfTheSpam
The whole theater started giggling when that scene happened. I was physically sick.

Plus, Elijah Wood is too hot to waste on being gay. I know that's superficial, but it's true.

Ariana
Elijah Wood has odd, bug-like eyes and weird teeth. And he's short. Exceedingly so. That said, I rather enjoyed Boondock Saints. You might also like The Order, incomprehensible and Ledger-infested as it was.

AttackOfTheSpam
Well, I don't so much like Elijah Wood as this guy at my school who looks like him - less buggy eyes, along with about six more inches in height. But that's totally random and off-subject.

The Order? It kind of bored me. Ho hum big bum. Oh, look, she's gone and killed her kids. Oh, look, they're back. Oh, look, they're terrorizing the new tenants. I'm enthralled.

Ariana
Dear Gods, is _that_ what it was about? I thought they were completely random evil demon-children. Makes much more sense now. Which really isn't saying much. I just liked the bit where they were hanging people. Oh, and the fact that the "sins" looked like large squids.

AttackOfTheSpam
Nah. Large squids are much more huggable. Plus, they shoot ink, and that's just awesome.

Naazima
How is it this stream went from a debate over wiether my opinion was based on social stylings to.... well, non-sense?? It boggles the mind.... of the unintelligent maybe.... hmmm...

jeanette
You mentioned The Cube, so I am therefore forced to list my complete hatred and loathing for that movie. God, even thinking about it now is horrible!

AttackOfTheSpam
Naazima, the human mind is a curious little bugger. Don't try to comprehend - you'll only confuse yourself. Trust me on this. YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW.

Jeanette - then don't think about it. Clear your mind, O lower-cased one. Be at peace with the suckiness of pop culture in general.

Samantha
I don't think Elijah's gay, and there's nothing wrong with that, well, there is some. Anyway, here is proof that he could be. [Elwood on 'Ellen'] www.img-nex.theonering.net/movies/ewoodellen32305.wmv In this video link from theonering.net, he has such a feminine voice, he crosses his legs, and you can especially tell by how he puts his hand on her in the end. Such a gay position! lol<\/A>/.
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