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Comments on Sunday 14 December 2003:
Furthermore, hoorah, Saddam Hussein has been captured - this means the War On Terror is over and won, and we can all stop worrying about terrorism again, and all the excessive nonfunctional security can go away again, and there will be world peace and no more hunger, and no more fighting, and thank you, vote for me for Miss World 2003. [18:25]

nitr0z
they will make a big thing about it, will just cause more trouble blah blah were all gonna die

James (shades)
I'm not going to vote for you, you forgot to say that you love puppies and rainbows.

James (shades)
Hmm. What sort of comment on my lifestyle is it when I get most of my news through your blog?

RavenBlack
That it's a good one. News is so rarely relevant to one's own life, it's a waste of time to get it at all. I was more irked by it delaying movies than anything else, at least until they started showing that guy who looks like a muppet. And he really really does look like the muppet - much more so in full motion.

gecko
... and we can now help the Iraqi people build a new, democratic tommorow...
was what we got from Bush in his press release. You may have competition there for Miss World

Digi
Yeah! Down with America! Yeah! YEAH! Etc.

The Dritex
What, world hunger is gone? Nooooooooo, come back world hunger, come back...

You were one of teh only things left for all those charity people to always do. Come back...come back...

Ozzyopolis
*LMAO*

Naazima
Is it bad that I live in America and could give a crap less if he was found or not?? I got fed up and am now on strike from any sort of news from the television. And I feel no sympathy for the president. Did he even need sympathy... oh well, it's a moot point. And now for me to start planning my quick escape from this country when I cause people to want me dead.

RavenBlack
No, that's good. That was rather my point with the post - that Saddam's being found won't affect anyone except Saddam and Bush's crowd in any meaningful way.

AttackOfTheSpam
Yes, the War On Terror is over - at least that's the media's view on it. Might I remind the world as a whole that Osama Bin Laden, the man who actually ATTACKED the US, is still on the loose, whereas Hussein never made any sort of aggressive move towards America until they attacked him.

Also, might I say that the 'dark and dangerous era' is only over once the Army gets the hell out of Iraq and leaves the citizens alone rather than killing ten to twelve every day. But that's all.

Except that Bush is going to get reelected and slowly drive away any allies the US has left through his own bull-headed, egotistical jingoism. But that's all.

AttackOfTheSpam
One more thing - why is it that America is SO painfully determined to make a new, democratic Iraq when we're advising Taiwan, a democratic nation, to go back to communist China? Does anyone else think we're just making war for the economic benefits? Or is that just me?

RavenBlack
Ms Spam - that's the same point I was making through irony. Or would have been, if anyone understood irony these days.

Note that Hussein didn't make any sort of aggressive move towards America even *after* they attacked him. Only towards invading Americans.

The Dritex
I think people need to realise, the US is the reason Sadam was in power there in teh first place. So maybe it makes sense that the government si finally taking responsibility for a bad move, and doing what it can to fix that mistake.

RavenBlack
"finally taking responsibility". You're joking, of course.

James
Oh, I don't know about that. I'm fairly certain that conclusive evidence, or at least reliable eyewitness reports, or failing that, a tenuous stretching of old data combined with a strong rhetoric could prove that Saddam has, in fact, given America the finger. Or at least given someone the finger while facing the general direction the US is in, which, as we all know, is the same thing.

AttackOfTheSpam
Yes, well, I'm in effing HIGH SCHOOL - I don't have an irony complex yet. I'm still young and impressionable... plus, I was still on my soapbox from dealing with the ninth-grade masses of Republican North-Central Texas, so it's hard to be intelligent.

As for Saddam, the only thing I'm hoping is that America doesn't ceremonially torture and kill him. That would make him a martyr, and that would make him pitiable, which in turn would grant him followers. Then said followers would rise up in force and attack America. Not that America doesn't richly deserve being attacked, but that would just spawn more violence, and I'm a pacifist. So anyway.

As for Dritex, America doesn't believe in responsibility. We believe in 'moral duty' and then getting the hell out before our oil contracts go down the drain.

Naazima
I agree with Spam... but i have to add that it's not hard to beat American Morals these days... and we've been a little sloww in getting out lately. Supposedly, since the War on Terrorism is over, we should have no more troops over there (where ever there is). Seems to me though that since the "War on Terrorism" ended we've sent more people... not less..... hmmm interesting....

RavenBlack
I was making up the War on Terror being over. It won't ever be over because Terror is an abstract thing that can't be destroyed. There'll just be scapegoat after scapegoat as excuses for continuing assaults on countries that have toys that America doesn't.

The Dritex
You all know I didn't mean actually taking responsibility taking responsibility, but rather, that what we're foing is sorrta right, cause we screwed things up in the first place. And I bet, this'll all end up leaving teh place still screwed up, which'll mean we'll go back later, to "fix" things again, and so on, until the place has become either a complete commonwealth of the US, or territory of some other country.

Thing with the troops still being there though, is to assit in reconstuction of the place, and to help in weeding out the terrorist dudes still lurking around over there.

RavenBlack
You're only a terrorist if you do it in someone else's country. You're a freedom fighter if you're 'terrorising' occupying forces from another country.

That or you're a terrorist if popular perception (aka. the media) says you're a terrorist, I suppose.

You can't weed out terrorists with occupying forces - witness Ireland. You can only catch this sort of 'terrorists' a few at a time, and when you do that just proves their point and creates replacements.

Naazima
Didn't you know Raven that for about 6 months President Bush has been telling us that the War on Terrorism is over?? I thought you knew. It was all we heard about for a while.

AttackOfTheSpam
Yes, but dear old President Bush hasn't pulled his troops out yet, now has he? Isn't that what you're supposed to do once the wars are over? Interesting...

As long as Bush is in office the War On Terror will never be over. He will always find a new country to stage it in, a new territory to liberate, a new dictator to be 'eradicated.' He's like that.

The bad thing is that we're all going to be in the middle of it. If not now, eventually. And that sucks a lot.
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